Родители греки и их родственники

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ol4ik_z пишет: Ну выглядела она не красиво, поймет, извинится, нет будет *аль ее

Ну и не бери в голову, главное, что твой ПП правильно себя повел!

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Karelia пишет: не бери в голову

не я в поряде, я еще и не такое видела, слава Богу, меня уже не испугаешь злой свекровью
я просто думаю, как теперь себя лу4ше повести. Она когда орать на4ала, я просто встала и вышла из квартиры, ПП побежал за мной, мы сели в машину и поеxали в АяНапу, а вернулись ве4ером, когда она уехала к себе.
Она звонила ПП, 4то-то там оправдывалась, но передо мной не извинилась и меня к телефону не попросила. Как бы все замяли, но ... она ведь рано или поздно приедет к сыну

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Eurydice пишет: свекрухи от национальности не зависят. Это отдельная национальность!

абсолютно согласна. Свекровь могет быть хорошей, только если она ОЧЕНь далеко
интересно, а почему все анекдоты про надоедливых тещь, потому-что свекрухи ето уже не смешно

ol4ik_z
Какая же вы хорошая, прямо идеал русской невестки какой-то......Свекровь унижает по полной программе, из дома беременной выгоняет-а вы еще ей оправдание ищете, ждете, не придет ли прощения просить,
Наверное за ето на нас русских жениться любят, и пооооорать можно, и на место указать, приехали, понимаешь из «грязи в князи» да еще с запросами.

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Eurydice пишет: А вот если муж не муж, а маменькин сынок, то лучше и не надо. И не зависит это от национальности, нет.

Что касается греков, то очень зависит!
Надо знать стиль воспитания мальчиков в греческих семьях и особенности греческого феминизма, чтобы понимать, что ситуация изменится, только когда нынешние девушки станут бабушками, т.е. через два поколения. А у вас там в греческих диаспорах за границей и неизвестно вообще когда это произойдёт.

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paolia пишет: ol4ik_z Какая же вы хорошая, прямо идеал русской невестки какой-то......Свекровь унижает по полной программе, из дома беременной выгоняет-а вы еще ей оправдание ищете, ждете, не придет ли прощения просить,

ну не такая я и хорошая , да и собственно свекровь то меня не выгоняла, я просто не стала учавствовать в ее шоу одного актера. Просто жаль, я была о ней много лучшего мнения. В конце концов мне то важно не ее мнение и истерики, а реакция моего мужа на них. его реакция не в ее пользу. чего я и добивалась своим видимым спокойствием

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paolia пишет: А почему вы думаете, что ситуация вообще измениться ?

Потому что нынешние свекрови из поколения женщин, которые сидели дома, не работали, воспитывали детей (особенно мальчиков!), имели в лучшем случае начальное образование, даже не имели права голоса на выборах! При всём православии, Греция очень "мусульманская страна" была до недавнего времени.
Только вот новое поколение современных девушек, возможно, изменят ситуацию в будущем.

mSergik,
Please, do not generalize! A lot of Greek women (and I mean A LOT!) in the age of 55 to 65 and older than that, are NOT as you describe them to be, even if they had an elementary education as you mentioned. Education and the place were someone is raised (no matter if it is the richest suburb of a capital city or a far away village in the country side) has nothing to do with good manners or tolerance towards other races and cultures! It has to do with the character of the person.
Do not compare the way of life of Muslim people and especially the treatment of Muslim women from their society, to the “Greek orthodox” way of life in the past times. I am not defending any kind of Christian denomination, and I don’t care to do that, but this: “Muslim country” is a bad example of comparison!

Yes, unfortunately there are Greek mothers (and mothers in law) which are overprotective and sometimes dominative over their sons and their lives, (and consequently to their marriage) but that has nothing to do with the nationality of their daughters-in-low. A Greek woman would “suffer” the same nag and constant control of her mother in law!!
It is sad for me to read that some of the girls here, already married with Greek men, have to deal with these kinds of problems! I truly understand their frustration and I don’t have any reason to doubt them.

Dear Polina Tsedenova
I completely agree with you!! That’s why I said…

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gosha7 пишет: I truly understand their frustration and I don’t have any reason to doubt them.

There are some people in Greece which have a wrong perception and opinion about foreign people (especially about women from the former soviet republics).Given a change they would change their mind when someone explains to them a few things. I am not talking about racists. To them the words “logic” and “humanity” have a total deferent meaning…

About nationalities:
My parents immigrated to Germany in the `60s. They had a rather good life there, but they also had their share of unpleasant stories with the locals. To some Germans my parents didn’t matter that they were not Turks or Italians they were simply: “Ausländer”(foreigner, alien, non citizen, outlander)

There are cases in Greece where –for example- a Greek woman from the north side of Greece is married to a man from the south part of Greece and her mother in law may never accept her as an equal part of the family. She may even plot against her “foreign” daughter in law! A cousin of mine had this unfortunate experience. She got divorced and now she is raising two kids basically on her own.

It is really nice that your mother in law is a sensible person (lucky you) =)
My best wishes to you and to the rest of the girls here!

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Polina Tsedenova пишет: it is rather strange that some of these women dare to ask their daughters-in-law, when seeing them for the first time in their lives, whether they go to the bars. I would never believe that this will be the case when a Greek man marries a Greek woman.

No woman wants her son to marry the kind of 'girl who goes to bars'. Especially in Greece, where mothers are often overprotective. It can be kind of degrading, but put yourself in the mother's position and try to understand that she just wants the best for her child.

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Polina Tsedenova пишет: Our mothers would never mix the nationality of their sons-in-law.

Do you mind explaining what you mean by 'our mothers'?

If you had mothers from the former Soviet Union in mind, it's worth remembering that they have far more experience of living with people of other nationalities. Greeks are traditionally hostile to foreigners.

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gosha7 пишет: Education and the place were someone is raised (no matter if it is the richest suburb of a capital city or a far away village in the country side) has nothing to do with good manners or tolerance towards other races and cultures! It has to do with the character of the person.

It does, but if all a person sees and hears about a certain group of people marks them as inferior, they will most likely believe it. A decent person will accept others more easily than a close-minded one, but only if prompted to do so. How one was raised IS important in how one perceives people. Many children in Greece are generally taught that Muslims are bad people - and since they find no evidence to the contrary, they believe it.

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Athena P. пишет: No woman wants her son to marry the kind of 'girl who goes to bars'.

You missed the message, dear lady. I am 100% sure that this is not the question the Greek mothers ask their Greek daughters-in-law.

I don’t think I have missed the message I just wanted to stress that No woman wants her son to marry the kind of 'girl who goes to bars' whatever nationality she is No one Greek mother would like her son to marry a Greek 'girl who goes to bars'

Greeks are traditionally hostile to foreigners because they had not at all a good experience of living together. Им приходилось от них только защищаться. Враждебность здесь здравое чувство.

With your permission dear members of this forum I would like to make a small but very important change to this phrase:
“Greeks are traditionally hostile to foreigners”
“SOME Greeks are hostile to foreigners”
Please people don’t generalize a whole nation to a small percentage of idiots.

А чей-то мы на английский перешли? Да еще тут некоторые с ним не дружат)